Log in or Sign up. Log in Razer Insider. Hi guys. I'm new to macro and firmware stuff, but after googling I realized, its memory can store keylogger or an exploit that can be used as trojan downloader. What can be done in cases like this? Never seen such 'virus' in the wild, but this doesn't mean, that such thing isn't exist.
FiszPL , Apr 19, It confused me because this mouse had worked with this computer for six months with no issues. This made me wonder if my friend's computer had a virus, which traveled through his computer to mine, through the mouse. I contacted online tech support here on Microsoft, and they told me my mouse was broken and I would have to buy another.
Well, I have plugged in two other mice into my computer and they worked for two minutes, but then had the same issue! This, altogether is beginning to make me believe there is a virus that travels through USB mice and kills them.
I have scanned my computer with Panda Antivirus, but nothing was detected and my computer shows no signs of being slower than normal. I am completely open to suggestions but am not willing to buy a new mouse quite yet.
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Modern mice tend to have writable firmware. Even the cheap pieces may be infectable - and the chance goes up for the more expensive ones. There's not a lot of space for any modern virus disk formatters are kind of rare now : , but we're living on the internet now - it's quite possible to fit in enough code to allow a HTTP download and run whatever executable.
Of course, it's still not very likely - it's too much effort on the wannabe-hacker's part. Luaan Not to mention that each "hack" must be for a very specific device, firmware version, model, manufacturer, driver version, operating system and operating system version and build and hardware architecture and it's version. Just too many variables for someone to even try it. A mouse with the correct software could pretend to be a keyboard and send keystrokes to download and run software using common keyboard shortcuts.
IsmaelMiguel But it could be used to target a specific victim, e. USB sticks have been left in parking lots to do this , and a mouse would seem even more innocent. Also your assertion that "most mice presumably including this one don't contain any writable memory" is almost certanly wrong.
Show 5 more comments. Community Bot 1. Don't most mice contain a microprocessor, which does have memory? Depends on which type of mouse you talk about. If you are considering the normal mouse the one with a ball, if I may say so , the answer is no. If you are talking about optic mice, the answer is yes, they have a processor integrated into an ASIC that drives a camera that takes pictures of a surface, records them to memory, and compares them against newer pictures and decides in which direction the device was moved.
But the memory is too small to contain a malware as I said. The example I gave in my answer is about a mouse fabricated for the purpose to harm a client of Nefragard. Bergi — user Do you have any justification or evidence for your statement that most mice do not have any memory? See Luuan's comment that most mice have writeable firmware.
You write in the very first sentence of your answer that "Most mice do not have any type of memory. I don't follow you. Did you not write the answer that appears above your name? Sounds like you need to edit your answer to be a lot clearer about what you are and aren't saying. Again, I suggest that you edit your answer to clarify what you are trying to say, what the rationale for your statement is, and what assumptions you are making.
Your answer says "Most mice", but now your comments suggest that maybe you are really talking about "Ball mice" and assuming that most mice are "ball mice". The right solution is not to continue with a back-and-forth in comments; the right solution is to edit your answer to be more explicit. I still would like to see what is the reason for claiming ball mice don't have writeable firmware.
Do you have any evidence for that? Intermediary hardware devices could also be used to capture mouse inputs. These are generic to all mice though and not just the one you linked to. Yeah, absolutely and the mouse in question appears to operate exactly as you describe. This is the reason I highlighted the software that the mouse will use to operate. Yeah, but for the PC-side program to have any bearing in that case you'd have to transfer the data somehow, at which point you're asking "I transferred program data from A to B, could I be compromised".
The macro function itself is a red herring, and is unlikely to be an additional vector when moving to a new machine. Telling the macro to execute an attack say, open a command prompt would require the same access as actually executing the attack, so isn't interesting. Now, you should be able to use the mouse properly again. You can come across the Logitech mouse not working issue for many reasons.
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